普京在今天的问答会中无意透露了鹅毛真实伤亡，和西方及乌克兰的估计大致相同

Russia lost 360,000 people in the war, according to Putin

 

244k mobilized. 486k volunteers. And there are only 617k at the front. Interesting military mathematics from Putin.

 

Even so, it turns out that the losses were 113k people. But there was also the invasion group and those who were recruited before mobilization. And this is around 250k. That is, Putin literally admitted irretrievable losses in the amount of 363k people. And this takes into account those allegedly mobilized due to age (40k people) - according to his own words.

 

 

Based on various figures given by Putin, military analyst Yan Matveyev says the president has essentially admitted to Russian losses of around 363,000 in Ukraine*****CDsqEOy8V6

— Francis Scarr (@francis_scarr) December 14, 2023

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• 西方和乌克兰两者的估计差远了 -fatpigpiggy- ♂ (145 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:00:58

• 我认为是丧失作战能力 -cbam_user- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:06:50

• 西方估计的是下限, 毕竟他们不在战场, 只能保守估计, 免得被人要证据拿不出。乌克兰是从各战场汇总, 非常准确。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:10:13

• 如果加上从俄国内部调来的, 从俄在世界各地驻军调来的, 就会发现乌克兰的数字才对。 如果不是驻军减少,俄国不会连亚美尼亚 -咲媱- ♀ (202 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:12:21

• 如果不是驻军减少,俄国不会连叙利亚, 亚美尼亚, 中亚斯坦国, 都控制不了。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:14:24

• 这些驻军几十万, 就凭空消失了, 哪里去了? -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:16:03

• 这几十万是征兵之外的数字。 普京说的, 是征兵部分的损失。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:17:50

• 优秀男人全战死, 留下老弱病残, 俄族的基因会变得越来越弱 -紅塵- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:32:01

• 这不就是普京要用十五年, 给你的新俄罗斯? 逆世界发展方向而走, 能有什么好下场。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:36:08

• 独裁者不下台,拖死独裁政权, 独裁政权不下台, 拖死国家, 国家赖着不灭亡, 拖死民族。包袱越背越大。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:38:48

• 你可移民莫斯科呀... -紅塵- ♂ (167 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:40:23

• 我就在欧美, 拿着咖啡, 慢慢的看戏, 看他们一步步的走向深渊 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:44:36

• 欧美日澳这么大, 几百年都玩不完, 莫斯科这种垃圾地方就不会去了, 永远不会去。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 14:32:49

• 还少算了从俄罗斯以及世界其他地方调去的俄军, 比如驻扎北极的部队, 阵亡一半。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:02:01

• 还有原来驻扎亚美尼亚,叙利亚等地的俄军, 都是有减少, 全部填入了乌克兰。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:02:47

• 还有瓦格那和风包Z, 是不计入俄军的。所以死亡还要多。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:02:47

• 363k losses, killed vs killed+wounded -紅塵- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:09:12

• 我一直把乌方的数字理解为丧失作战能力 -cbam_user- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:11:08

• 这样话, 363K这数字make sense -紅塵- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:15:40

• 完全不考虑轮替和前几个月的退休吗？ -thrawn- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/15/2023 postreply 14:31:30

• 普里格金说过瓦格纳是签六个月合同，六个月之后可以走人，除非你自己为了钱不走 -天青水蓝- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023 postreply 06:29:46